" The best answer on how to properly view socialism/statism versus markatism
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"In the Spanish Civil War in the late 1930s, Republican soldiers are
said to have died with the word Stalin on their lips. Their idealized
vision of Soviet communism, however misguided, provided justification
for their ultimate sacrifice. Few people would die with the words free
markets on their lips.

Even without that extreme contrast, the moral appeal of socialism and
state intervention is clear and explicit: altruism; concern; sympathy,
and solidarity with fellow humans; dignity and social betterment;
justice and fairness; hope. The market system cannot offer such direct
appeals. Its moral basis is more subtle-- and indirect-- in terms of
the opportunities and results it affords.

Yet the essential morality of market is twofold. The first is in the
results that it delivers, in what it makes possible for people-- which
is based upon the premise that the pursuit (though hardly the
unfettered pursuit) of individual interest cumulatively adds up to the
overall betterment of society. That was, after all, at the heart of
Adam Smith's argument for self-interest. The second lies in the
conviction that a system based upon rules, property, contracts, and
initiative is more fair and provides against the arbitrary and
unchecked power of the state and other entities. Those two premises
are the bedrock of the market, and it is against them, over time, that
the workings of the market will be evaluated. Neither of these
premises implies that all values are market values, that human
endeavor is to be judged only by what it fetches in the commercial
arena.
THIS VIEW COULD BE TOO SIMPLIFIED IN THAT: 1. GETTING ON THE MARKET REQUIRES TAPPING
SOME ESSENTIAL OF SEASONAL ONLYNEEDS IN THE CONSUMER COMMUNITY DEFINED BY THAT GIVEN
PRODUCT VERSUS NEEDS FOR IT VERSUS WHAT WE CALL RELATIONAL VALUE OF THE TWO ( THAT
CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO SOCIAL QUNTUM; AND MORE OVER HERE AT OUR UNIVERSITY WE OBSERVED
THAT SOCIAL QUANTUM BY ITS VERY DEFINITION CAN NOT BE DIRTY AS IT WILL NOT EVEN
"IGNATE' THUS HAVE A BUILD IN MECHANISM THAT IS
BALANCE GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE COMMUNITY COUNTRY; NAMELY THE BAD GUYS CAN CRIMINALISE
THEMSELVES ABUT SOONER OR LATER WILL START 'TRICKLING' DOWNWORDS)

2. SERVICES' PRODUCTS ARE ON THE MARKET AND THESE 'WATCH'/ SELL FOR HUMANS;
WORK ONLY IF THEY SERVE THE HUMANS ( ENVIRONMENTAL TRICK IN COPENHAGEN , THE
SECONDARY AGNEDA BY THE 'MANAGERS' AND NOT SCIENTISTS THAT REALLY UNDERSATND THE
ENVIRON, TO CONTROL THE WORLD BY THE ALL MEANS AVAILABLE FOR THE ONE ONLY SELCTIVE
FACTOR IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL UPGRADE; IN A FEW YEARS THE WELL CONCEIVED
ENVIRONMENTALKPRODUCST ARE SPREAD WELL ACCROOS DIFFERENT NATIONS, WHETHER THEY SERVE
ONE CONTRYOR HAVE BIGGER APPEAL, WHILESECONDARY AGENDA DISSEAPERS.
IT WAS VERY SCARY IF FASCISTS OF USA/ITAIN OR MORE STARTED TOGETHER SHAKE THE WORLD
THIS WAY REALLY DIRTING IT WHILE THEI FORST SHOW UP STILL HAS LEFT THE RUINS...IN
CENTRAL PARK, NY; RUSSIA AND UCRAINE; BULGARIA; NEWARK NJ, AND THE NEW DISCOVERY IN:
BUFFALLO , NY; PHILADELPHIA; GARRY, ONCE PART OF CHICAGO;
TOLEDO , OHIO AND MANY MORE THAT WORLD IS STILL BLING WHAT IS FROM WHAT, WHILE ALMOST
ALLOWING FASCISTS TO CONTROL BY THEIR MEAND.

FASCISST ARE FEDERALSISTS - THEY NEVER YET STOPPED BRAGGING ABOUT IT, NOW VIA MOUTH
OF ROMNEY. AND WHAT? ( I AM RESTING)

Large realms of activity are to be valued-- and motivated-- in
terms that are distinct from dollars and cents. What is being said is
that there are better and worse ways of organizing economies to
achieve objectives. To choose the market focus is not automatically to
embrace a money culture.

Yet if the market is seen to fail on these grounds-- results,
restraints, the quality of its rules-- if it benefits are regarded as
exclusive rather than as inclusive, if it is seen to nurture the abuse
of private power and the specter of raw greed, if it does not
contribute to higher standard of living, then surely there will be a
backlash, a return to greater state intervention, management, and
control.

NOT NECESSERY - USING THE EXAMPLE OF COPENHAGEN CONTROLLERS.
YOU FURTHER OPEN SELF AS GETTING INTO THE UNDRSTANDING WHOLE
AS WELL. IT BE INTERESTING TO EXTRAPOLATE ON YOUR ARGUMENT.

The state would again step forward to expand its role as
protector of the citizenry against the power of private interests.

YES, HOWEVER STATE IS ONLY AN UNIT WITHIN LARGER GESTAILT BEING GLOBE OR GALAXY; AND
MIRACUROUSLY IN CAS EOF NORTH AMERICA - THE UNITED STATES THEMSELVES; CONTINUE.

This is not only a matter of what happens within nations. The backlash
against globalization is premised exactly on the idea that there is
something seriously wrong with the workings of the global market
place..." (THE COMMANDING HEIGHTS by Daniel Yergin and Joseph
Stanislaw)

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